Turkey Guns, Ammo & Chokes.

Re: Turkey Guns, Ammo & Chokes.

Unread postby Thedeerwhisperer » Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:36 pm

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Re: Turkey Guns, Ammo & Chokes.

Unread postby Nevermoor » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:37 pm

I have never patterned my gun before but this thread motivated me to try. I'm shooting a Remington 1187 with a 26" barrel with a turkey choke. I'm limited to 3" shells by the barrel. I was shooting Fiocchi hi brass 3" #4 shot with 1 3/4 oz. My exercise worries me.

At 25 Yds the turkey is dead.

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But at 40 yds I have very few pellets in the kill zone.

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And at 50 yds I think I should not shoot. I know some guys are patterned out to 60 yards but not me.

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I don't know how many pellets you expect to get at those distances. But my suspicion is that I shouldn't be shooting at 40 or 50 yards with these results.

So do I blame the shells or the choke? The choke has not had a box of shells through it so I doubt it is shot out.

What do you guys with more experience think? Do you get a lot more pellets hitting the bird?
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Re: Turkey Guns, Ammo & Chokes.

Unread postby bigcitybowhunter » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:31 am

I think you should try experimenting with some of the turkey loads out there on the market. You should have way more pellets in the neck and head at 25 yds.
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Re: Turkey Guns, Ammo & Chokes.

Unread postby Nevermoor » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:33 am

bigcitybowhunter wrote:I think you should try experimenting with some of the turkey loads out there on the market. You should have way more pellets in the neck and head at 25 yds.


Agreed. Can you recommend some good ones?
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Re: Turkey Guns, Ammo & Chokes.

Unread postby ol timer » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:24 am

Nevermoor, if you can look on the choke tube and see what numbers are there like say .675 .670? these will tell if your shooting a more open pattern or a tighter pattern. Your size shot also matters #5 & #6 are used a lot more pellets and heavier pellets, make a huge difference. Here’s a few good shells to look at Winchester Longbeards XR, Hevi Shot 13 or there Blend, Federal has a new TSS shell that’s hard to get right now but should be more available later this season.
Now is the barrel cleaned probably is the choke tube cleaned also? plastic from today’s wads will stick to the barrel and choke tube.
I would soak the choke tube in some goop overnight in a jar, it’s sold at Walmart to remove any debris, then remove any oils from the barrel I use denatured alcohol. Try a few of these things and see if the choke and shells you have should both to be replaced or just the shells, as I stated this is expensive and sometimes the frustrating part to getting a good pattern. Keep us posted on any changes.
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Re: Turkey Guns, Ammo & Chokes.

Unread postby Nevermoor » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:19 am

ol timer wrote:Nevermoor, if you can look on the choke tube and see what numbers are there like say .675 .670?

Now is the barrel cleaned probably is the choke tube cleaned also? plastic from today’s wads will stick to the barrel and choke tube.


Thanks for the reply, OT

The choke tube is a TruGLo .665. Called the Extreme Gobbler Stopper. :D The choke tube has not had a box of shells through it so I doubt it is shot out. I'm religious about cleaning guns and the barrel and tube are pristine. So I have to start trying different shells. I'll head to my local dealer today and see that he has. I sure hope hie has the small boxes of 10. Thanks for the recommendations.
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Re: Turkey Guns, Ammo & Chokes.

Unread postby ol timer » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:31 am

The .665 is a good constricted choke so I would say get some new shells try a box of #6 first more pellets in the shells then go to a #5 if you’re not happy with the 6s Winchester Longbeards are where I’d start. Let’s us know how it Patterns.
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Re: Turkey Guns, Ammo & Chokes.

Unread postby bigcitybowhunter » Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:23 am

Nevermoor I think ol timer covered everything there. Good stuff.
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Re: Turkey Guns, Ammo & Chokes.

Unread postby ted b » Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:49 pm

Also put a backing paper up you find out you only hit with tail or lead of your pattern. Meaning it went high or low. Try putting the target inside a 30” circle


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Re: Turkey Guns, Ammo & Chokes.

Unread postby Nevermoor » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:47 pm

I'm making progress. I went down and saw my favorite counterman at Belleplain Supply for some different shells. He also recommended the Winchester Long Beards. 3". I got #5 shot.

This change made a major difference.

At 25 yards I had 30+ pellets and the tightest part of my pattern was high and right. I was just holding the gun with an elbow resting on a table.

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At 40 yards I had 25 plus pellets in the head and neck. This time the bulk of my pattern was a little low but I tried aiming lower this time.

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At 50 yards I had 13 pellets in the head and neck. The tightest pattern was off to the right.

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I guess these are all dead birds. So the Winchester Longboards seem to be the answer. I'm not sure I would take the 50 yard shot.

I think I'll bring a bipod with me next week to help with my aim.

Thanks to all the help guys. B week will be here soon.
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